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Post by Kelley on Feb 20, 2006 22:12:03 GMT -5
One of the greatest gifts left behind in this film is the unknown. That you are left with questions that go unanswered and your mind can go a course work of different directions. None of the following are true or false, just openings for opinions. Please feel free to state your own, we'd love to hear what you think
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Post by tina45 on Mar 1, 2006 12:27:55 GMT -5
yeah after this film i wanted to see more like what happened to ennis or something
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Post by tulipa on Mar 3, 2006 13:47:52 GMT -5
I always tought trough the movie Ennis' daughter would find out about him and Jack, so what would she say if she known?
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Post by rafael83 on Mar 3, 2006 16:30:11 GMT -5
In my most crazy thoughts (Well, it's because i'm naive!), I want to think that Jack is not dead! Lureen's father throws him of the house, sends Jack in Mexico!, and tells everybody he's dead! One day, Jack come back to Ennis's and it's like "Wow, surprise!"!! Ennis understand his mistakes and they live together!
Well, I know, I'm a crazy fool, but sometimes, I hope they could live their love story endlessly...
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Post by Kelley on Mar 3, 2006 16:35:35 GMT -5
I am like you Rafael, I have written this somewhere else that for some reason Jack was banished from the map... and circumstances will somehow bring them together again. Call me a hopeless romantic, but I am willing to believe that despite all they belong together and it will find a way. It is my dream at least It would make for good writing...
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Post by Gareth of Marice on Mar 4, 2006 11:58:43 GMT -5
I agree, Brokeback. It would do for good writing. For such a good movie, it shouldn't have ended in such a sad ending. I mean, usually people say they're bored of happy endings and want something tragic, but in this situation, it would have been great to have a classic ending.
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Post by ragnar84 on Mar 4, 2006 12:57:51 GMT -5
I usually root for the bad guy because I just don't care about the good characters in most films. But in this movie Jack and Ennis were so powerfully real and tragic that I yearn for a happy ending! And also because I want to get my life back someday and stop crying every 5 minutes.
Does anybody think that the wooden horse Ennis carved at the beginning was the same one that he found in Jack's room? Maybe Jack had finished it or something
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Post by Kelley on Mar 4, 2006 13:39:30 GMT -5
YOU NOTICED TOO!?? I had thought the exact same thing!! Because there were a few long moments when he fondles and inspects (maybe not right word) the horse figure... and then goes to the window to breathe@ GoM- I would have left the ending in the film as it was... it was so powerful, however sad, it made it all the more thought provoking, harsh and real... But I can TOTALLY see where you are coming from!
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Post by rafael83 on Mar 4, 2006 13:52:29 GMT -5
I noticed this detail too, and I think that they are different... Maybe I'm wrong, but the one Ennis make in the mountain seems bigger than the one in Jack's room... If I don't cry at that moment sunday, I'll try to look at this detail once again!
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Post by Kelley on Mar 4, 2006 13:55:16 GMT -5
Yes I am sure they are different but it was just... how do you say, ironic? Little horse figurines.... this one in his room had much more detail and paint and was smaller, but ...they were both horses of wood and have strength that way!
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Post by rafael83 on Mar 4, 2006 14:02:41 GMT -5
Maybe it's a kind of... message, or reference (I can't find the word in French or in English!) (Kelley, en fait, je pensais a quelque chose qui fait penser à quelque chose du passé. Voir ce cheval lui rappelle l'époque où il était avec Jack, heureux)
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Post by Kelley on Mar 4, 2006 14:06:25 GMT -5
Oui, exactement!
Je pense que le mot que tu cherches est "symbolism"
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Post by freezzze on Mar 5, 2006 7:59:26 GMT -5
I think I must have been sleeping a part of the movie but what the heck was Jack doing in mexico :s ?
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Post by rafael83 on Mar 5, 2006 8:33:43 GMT -5
Thanks Kelley, that's THE word!
Freezzze, errmm how to say that? Jack went to Mexico to ...satisfy some needs a man has... Needs Lureen can't satisfy... Needs Ennis could satisfy, but he wasn't there...
I don't know if it's clear or no?
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Post by Kelley on Mar 5, 2006 8:38:05 GMT -5
(You are welcome Rafael ) Yes, he went across the border because there... well to put it bluntly are whores and hookers (men and women) and he had sexual desires ... remember "I don't know about you but I can't live off of a few high altitude fucks a year" ...he was going there because he was no longer fulfiled by his wife, she could not give him what he longed for.. and he could not be with Ennis all the time he desired
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